Probably of interest to Rude only: we've started watching Arrow in our (copious) free time. I really enjoy it, not despite but because of how ridiculous it often is. For example, whenever they pan over the city, that's a model, right? There's this particular establishing shot they use once per episode or so that just cracks me up because SOMETHING about it looks totally wrong but I can't figure out why. (Well part of it is nothing ever seems to be moving in the shots.)

I also like (genuinely) how the scenes are sometimes soap opera level but sometimes more like the filler "plot" scenes in a porno. The actress who plays the lawyer love interest in particular has this kind of porny look to her and her subplots are always really cheesy.

It's got pretty good action scenes and lots of beefcake for the ladies.

I think what I'm saying is that it's actually a really good recreation of a comic book!