Haven't played either of those games. You're leading the charge, dude!

I did ask a couple of the games group guys about Kingsburg and they weren't super sold on it as a gateway game. I guess it's on the long side? But who knows.

Nice post Pump! I like the top comment (right now) about how the people in the video just won't shut up.

Edit: Oh man, the new Serious Sam came out? I'm tempted.
Edit 2: Skyrim is $59.99 on Steam? WTF man. That shit might fly on consoles but not for PC.